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Just wanted to bump this

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Update
I have found one side effect of this, it appears the user gets no print status info while printing, can anyone confirm this?

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An update,
This fix seems to work for me, thanks sreilly, the problem was only for faculty users not students and only on Intel Macs (faculty has their own server home vol, I still don’t understand this but I am working on it) I had expected the user not to be able to add or delete printers but that is not the case. I will update if I figure out why it was only faculty.

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Beagle1,
There are a number of scrips and tools out there to do this but I am not confident enough to poke around in the guts so I use a consultant to do it. I emailed you my phone number if you want to discuss.

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Actually Firefox is running pretty good for us, I suspect that the reason is we redirect caches to the local Mac, this seems to help network speed a great deal also.

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We are a small art school, we have a G5 Xserve running AFS, netboot, NFS and Open directory, use Networked home folders with the cache redirected locally, 250 accounts and usually 50 or so users on at once average. Our home folders are on the Xserve NOT a PC vol. I have been following your post on the print crashes I am a little unclear on a couple of things and would like to clarify. I think I may have this problem but I have always had intermittent Word and Photoshop print and save issues. I am just rolling out my Intel image and have seen a couple of Word print problems, nothing consistent. As I see your solution it is to go to the Workgroup manager, select sharing, navigate to the users home folder, navigate to their users home dir Library/Printers folder and change access to read only. What is the downside of doing this, anything?

Also FYI I found this on Apples site, it says it does NOT occur on AFP base networks.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304317

While logged in using an SMB-based network home directory, applications that are not Universal, or Universal applications that are forced to run with Rosetta may unexpectedly quit when printing.
Products affected

* Intel-based Mac
* User with SMB-based network home directory

Solution

This does not occur when using an AFP-based network home directory, however if AFP is not available, use this workaround to print from affected applications:

1. Choose Print from the File menu.

2. Set desired print options.

3. Click Preview.

4. Click Print in the Preview window.

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Hi Josh thanks for the post,

I intended to post an update yesterday but being first day of school I was a bit distracted. We figured it out Saturday, don’t understand why it worked exactly as I am not as knowledgeable as most folks on afp548 but here goes…

We created two new test users, ran tests, here are results.

testa logs into intel Mac, everything works, logs out switches to PPC, everything works, logs out, logs into intel, problems described earlier occur.

testb logs into PPC, everything works, logs out switches to intel, problems described earlier occur, logs out, logs into intel, problems described earlier occur, logs out, logs PPC everything works.

We finally figured out we had neglected to run a script on the intel that we ran on the PPC redirecting the user caches to the local Mac rather than their home folder Duhhh. Once we had our consultant run that script on the Intel Mac image things settled down, we are imaging some more Macs and testing now.

Now I am still trying to wrap my mind around why this occurred, the only thing I can figure is there must be some info written to the cache the first time you log in that it did not find.

Adobe products and Microsoft software seems to give us the most headaches, Firefox usually runs pretty well.
Now if I could just figure out why I can’t suppress student accounts launching the print center I’ll be gold.

Thanks again

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Update FYI for anyone else trying to figure this out, I have this confirmation from other folks…
“We have put 750 gig drive modules in G5 Xserves,
regardless of what Apple says, installed 1 terabyte SATA drives in Apple Drive Modules and they
have worked, it is NOT a best practice to put non-Apple OEM drives in the
modules brackets, If you have a choice, and the budget to pay for it, get an
“official” Apple Module, which is covered by a good warranty. “

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Sure enough, I found this thread on Apple discussion board
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2227987#2227987

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Unearthed a helpful thread at Apple forums
I am now pretty convinced that my problem is the 10.4. server bug. My problems have not so much been shutdowns but services slowdowns. Bad news is 10.4.6 has mixed success. See this post

http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=2063489#2063489

For anyone on 10.4 It’s worth reading just for a couple of tips in there

Also trying to make sense of this. Not sure if this is a hint or normal.

https://www.afp548.com/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=12152

I am pretty fried and tired right now, will post more later.
Thanks Craig

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My problem appears to be the 10.4. server bug. My problems have not so much been shutdowns but services slowdowns. Bad news is 10.4.6 has mixed success. See this post (same as the previous post)

http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=2063489#2063489

It’s worth reading just for a couple of tips in there.

Also trying to make sense of this servermgrd process bump. Not sure if this is a hint or normal.

https://www.afp548.com/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=12152

I am pretty fried and tired right now, will post more later.
Thanks Craig

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No I did not get a chance, watching it closer now, there is a lot of discussions, 10.4.4 gets blamed, check out this post.

http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=2063489#2063489

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Has anyone ever found a solution to this problem or has everyone given up? I posted last fall and have not had a restart but I am having slowdowns.
I have Dual 2 Gig G5 Xserver with 2 gig RAM running 10.4.4. The ONLY services running on it are AFP and Open Directory. I am using LDAP, all user files are on the Xserver. I have 3 250 Gig drives, OS is on one drive, faculty on another and students on the third. It seems to have gotten slower since I put 10.4.4 on it and today it slowed to a crawl to the point that I had to shut everyone down and restart, when I did I ran Applejack on it and skipped Permission repairs because I did not have time (I’ll do that this weekend). it sems bette now but somethig is wrong. lately I have seen logon times in minutes not seconds, Also at time the users access speed to the server slows to a crawl. It usually happens mid day when 40 to 50 users are on. Network tests at this time show the traffic was not excessive and no problems pinging the server. I have double checked DNS, forward and reverse. What the heck is going on, has anyone seen problems with 10.4.4, should I go to 10.4.6? Any ideas at all would be appreciated.

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I am about out of ideas, I have tested DNS fwd and reverse, Looked at logs, restarted, run Applejack. Does anyone have any suggestions? What is the best server vs. 10.4.4, 10.4.5 or 10.4.6.

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Thanks for the input. I don’t think my problem is the same as this server has been running OK. Where did you change the serial number? Was it the same hardware and SW server version? i don’t get why this would be an issue.

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