[rstasel]

Would also love to do this…

[rstasel]

are these network home directories? If so, you have a .TemporaryItems at the root of the AFP share?

[rstasel]

I have never seen this issue, and until December, we were running 10.4 clients with 10.4 server hosting AFP accounts.

Can you tell us what version of client and server? Are there any messages in the system.log on the client?

[rstasel]

wow, I’m dumb… I didn’t even bother to look and see if this was an option in WGM for 10.5… now I see it clearly.

Thanks Josh!

[rstasel]

ah ha, so you have this issue.

From the Office X and Office 2004 days…. make sure there is a .TemporaryItems folder at the root of the share. So if your User share is /Volumes/Data/Users, make sure to put a .TemporaryItems folder in there, and make it world read/write (777).

That should fix your issues. =)

[rstasel]

10.5.3 fixed it.

mcxquery now returns computer records. cool! So far, I haven’t had any issues with 10.5.3, and it seems to fix all the problems I have been having except assigning an SSL cert to a OD replica.

[rstasel]

Okay, so here’s I think the real base of the issue.

If I login to a client with a user that does not have a home folder, a folder is created on the User share. But, it only contains Desktop and Library, the two folders necessary for a user directory. So the client is creating those, not the server.

So, what I think the problem is, is because there is no udata, only udata1 and udata2, there is no machine for the user directory template to be copied from when the folder is created, which is why “Create Home Folder Now” doesn’t work, and why the folder created on first login is “bare”.

So this isn’t an AFP issue so much as something else. But any way you slice it, it’s a problem that I’m not sure I know how to resolve, unless I create all the users with their home on udata1 or udata2, then after the fact, change them over to udata. Or, change the DNS round robin so that both udata1 and udata2 contain A records for each other.

Anyone have an opinion? It’s getting lonely talking to myself. =P

[rstasel]

To further add to the oddity….

If I am on a client, and go to “Go, Connect to Server…” and connect to udata as a user, I only get the option to connect to Users.

BUT!!

If I login to a client with that username, it works.

So, whatever the issue, it’s enough that connect to server doesn’t work, nor does creating of home directories (either within WGM or logging it without a preexisting home directory) (and yes, I checked to make sure afp:CreateHomeDir = yes), but not something that bugs a client login.

Fascinating. Will post more when I know… please feel free to give me any info you might have. cause I’m pretty well confused at this point.

[rstasel]

So in a slight update. It seems to be that the client (or OD Master in the case of user folder creation) doesn’t like the fact that it asks for udata, and gets a response from udata1 or udata2. I changed the mount record to be specific to udata1, and everything works. Change it back, bubkis. I can confirm that this is an issue by changing the mount to udata1, then connecting to udata2, and not having the option to mount my home directory, even though udata2 can see it just fine.

If I look at /Network/Servers on udata1 or 2, I do see an entry for udata.domain. and I can even drill down into it and see the directories that are there.

So I guess my question then is, can I somehow tell the servers to respond as udata rather than udata1 or udata2? Or convince the clients that they are allowed to “speak” as udata?

I would really like if this worked… otherwise, I’m going to have to build a linux load balancer to do things…

Thanks!

[rstasel]

yup, this is the same thing I’m getting.

And yeah, depressing that no one has responded. This machine, oddly enough, is the same machine that servermgrd randomly stops responding on, and you can’t connect to it over server admin.

I just figure it’ll fix it when I go and reinstall the system later this summer.

[rstasel]

Okay. Confusing though since word works fine without using NHR… but with it installed, things barf.

Looking as lsof, it looks like it’s trying to write to:

Before save fails:
/private/Network/Servers/server/Volumes/Data/Users/rstasel/Desktop/asdfakjsdflkj.doc
/private/var/tmp/folders.1097/TemporaryItems/dftmpPPGBLJBMlkkkkkkk——–

After save fails:
/private/var/tmp/folders.1097/TemporaryItems/dftmpPPGBLJBMmkkkkk———–
/private/Network/Servers/server/Volumes/Data/Users/rstasel/Desktop/Word Work File L_4

Doesn’t look out of the ordinary to me other than the fact it fails.

How are other people not having problems with NHR?? unless no one uses it.

Thanks.

[rstasel]

Joel,

I’m not sure I follow. I’m trying to save to the Desktop Folder, or Documents Folder, of a network home directory.

I do have a .TemporaryItems folder at the root level of that home directory. Does word try to save something to that directory?

I just can’t figure out why other people wouldn’t have issues with NHR.

I tried Office X 10.4.6 and 10.4.7 and both of those do it as well. Excel continues to work just fine. So Word is doing something special that the other programs are not doing. Heaven forbid MS or any software developer could give technical documentation on what happens when a file is being saved. lsof didn’t give me a lot of info… any ideas on when I should run it to figure out what it’s trying to do.

Thanks!

[rstasel]

Excel seems to work. Word doesn’t.

We do see that issue.

So, what office are you having luck with working, and what office doesn’t? Office 2004 is also broken for me… but I haven’t tried older versions of Office X (like 10.1.7, or 10.1.6).

[rstasel]

bump?!

[rstasel]

I am seeing this error as well. Usually after about 20 or so days of server uptime.

I can’t imagine this is thread starvation as I’ve upped every configuration to allow for many more threads than default.

Anyone had any luck reducing this? It’s extremely difficult to keep rebooting when people are using the system.

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