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October 26, 2005 at 1:41 pm #363798
peterthorn
ParticipantCan anyone tell me what kind of backup devices that can be used to backup xsan setups? Apple states that ADIC devices or exabyte devices should be used, but have anyone positive experiences with other (less expensive) ones?
TIA,
PeterOctober 26, 2005 at 1:59 pm #363799maccanada
ParticipantNo experience…I would think any FC attached tape device would be fine…compatibility with the backup software would be the main factor here. How much do you have to backup and how long do you have to back it up?
November 1, 2005 at 6:06 pm #363887woodgie
ParticipantI know someone who backs up their XSAN to… another XSAN!
They then archive off onto DLT tapes as and when needed (I think it’s an HP or Dell 6 disk loader).
They have a bit of cash though.
November 1, 2005 at 9:01 pm #363890deanypop
ParticipantWe backup our xSAN to a remote* Xserve RAID using a wrapper tool for rsync called ‘snapback2’… Takes hourly snapshots of on-disk changes, and forwards them to our colo.
Extra Xserve – $0 (we’re using an old 1st gen G4 to do this now that it’s no longer our file server… But to avoid cheating, call it $5000)
Extra Xserve RAID – $12000
Bandwidth devoted to backup – $3000/year for 2MBps (not that much changes hourly with us)So, For $20K first year, plus $3K/year, we get six months of hourly backups (we don’t need to go further back than that for backup purposes… We have DVD archives of our finished projects in a juke, as well), that can, in a pinch, ALSO serve as a disaster recovery duplicate of our file server/xSAN configuration.
Note – we did the initial rsync of the server over a one week period ON SITE, then moved the backup offsite.
Anyway, That ended up being a much more flexible/affordable solution for us than any* tape options out there to hold a similar amount of data. Being able to DAV or NFS mount for recovery of individual files is a nice bonus… Of course, disks are always going to be more volatile than tape, so I’d build in another couple grand yearly for replacement disks.
I guess it all depends on how many bad tape experiences you’ve ever had, and what methodologies you use to regularly verify the integrity of backups. Disk to disk is really* easy for that, too.
January 10, 2006 at 3:21 am #364702szumlins
ParticipantI use Veritas NetBackup, it just ties into all the existing architecture we have. The only caveat is that you have to back it up from a mounted volume, so one of my MDCs has the volume mounted pretty much all the time simply for backup (thought I can’t really imagine how you would back up the volume without it being mounted).
I also use BRU on another box at a remote location and I’ve been very happy with it so far. The latest release made huge improvements. You can check it out at http://www.tolisgroup.com if you’ve never heard of it.
October 18, 2006 at 2:37 pm #367312Jason
Participant[QUOTE]Bandwidth devoted to backup – $3000/year for 2MBps (not that much changes hourly with us)>[/QUOTE]
What are you using? How are you getting 2MBps upload to colo for $250/mo? Share the love…
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