unable to connect using Server Admin

Hi all, using server admin i cannot connect to one of my servers anymore. both using dns name, localhost it doesn't work [code]serveradmin blabla[/code] does work and give me the right info ipfilter is not running in system log i see [code]Mar 17 12:48:11 xservepp /Applications/Server/Server Admin.app/Contents/MacOS/Server Admin: [707] ServerManager session failed in connect(127.0.0.1,127.0.0.1,687): 61\n[/code] or [code]Mar 17 12:48:11 xservepp /Applications/Server/Server Admin.app/Contents/MacOS/Server Admin: [707] ServerManager session failed in connect(127.0.0.1,127.0.0.1,311): 61\n[/code] depending on the option 'use ssl or not' [code]lsof | grep LISTEN[/code] or network utility both say nothing is listening on port 687 or 311 in /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.servermgrd.plist i see: [code] listenForRegularConnections listenForSSLConnections [/code] and [code] regularPort 687 sslPort 311 [/code] servermgrd is running 10.4.11 server anyone else seen this behavior? or knows how to fix it?